I don’t see it with flowers. Lamar’s #3? Maybe the ravens turn into a team that can support 3+ fantasy options in the receiving game, but I just don’t see it. I’d rather let someone else take the bet
Ditto with downs. Is that really a great situation? Being the #3 wr on a team with a rushing/rookie QB? Rice, Mingo, mims, Tillman, and even Hyatt seem like they are equivalent or better talents that also have a better situation and more expended capital.
I know betting on talent is one thing, but I think listening to the nfls eval of talent is probably a better indicator than our own thoughts of them.
Playing devil’s advocate on Flowers…what about “listening to the NFLs eval of talent?”
My response would be this: 2 Wrs got taken over flowers in the NFL draft and both went to better situations than him. If flowers was your wr1 or wr2 pre-draft based on your own research, it’s time to revaluate. I don’t even think he’s wr3 now and it’s not particularly close for me.
This is especially true in downs case. I think people liked him pre-combine and had him maybe as high as their wr4. I think people are still trying to hold onto that pre-combine eval by ranking him in the early-mid 2nd, but it simply doesn’t make any sense anymore. Draft capital, role, athletic/size profile, and team situation are all stacked against him. Screams 3rd round pick in drafts, not the 2.02
I think it’s difficult to make an argument that we should be listening to the NFL eval, but then say Flowers shouldn’t even be the WR3 (where he was drafted by those same NFL evaluators). Jagger’s WR2 ranking and just one spot before Addison/QJ isn’t egregious in any way. Also, you mentioned him being Lamar’s number 3 target, but I don’t think we know that yet. I don’t see any way Flowers could overtake Andrews, but without seeing OBJ back from injury and in a new offense, it’s a gamble both ways.
As you’ve said, I think it’s always important to re-evaluate, but in this case I think that means keeping an open mind that the Ravens’ offense will look completely different under Monken than Roman.
Checking my understanding on QJ’s value connection to his QB… so Lamar Jackson would be an ideal QB for his game, but Justin Herbert is not?
