29 Responses to “Dynasty Rankings Roundtable”

  1. Bob says:

    Hey,
    I want to know where the DLF IDP experts are ranking NaVarro Bowman after his injury.
    Thanks.

    • Zach says:

      I’m also wondering about Bowman. It’s a major blow to my team if he can’t return to form

      • Eric Olinger says:

        We have our IDP rankings available for free.

      • Eric Olinger says:

        Drafting a start-up team I am treating Bowman as if the injury never happened. I’d much rather deal with an ACL injury than an Achilles. He might start the year slow or on the PUP list but by mid-season he should be solid and by the end of the year he should be back to his old self. Plus he is only 25 years old.

        • Bob says:

          I looked at the rankings and thought top 5 was high for a player coming off injury. Wanted to know your thoughts post injury. I hope he gets back to his old form.

          Thanks!

          • Karl Safchick says:

            Hey Bob. I would consider Bowman a top 5 LB for sure. I consider David, Kuechly, Wagner, Alonso, and Bowman to be the top tier. If your league is sack heavy, you can sprinkle in guys like Aldon Smith, Houston, and Miller. Be on the lookout, I will eventually be interviewing the IDP guys for a Rountable discussion.

  2. Boys says:

    Interesting take on your Rankings of Players. After reading this I went to the Rankings page for RBs, now I am puzzled by your methodology.

    Seattle and San Fran are both running teams while Denver and Detroit are both pass heavy; why do you rank the RBs for those passing teams well above the RBs for those running teams?

    As an example:

    Bush is a consensus #19 you have him #14 – 5 spots higher
    Lynch is a consensus #8 you have him #22 – 14 spots lower
    Bush had 1006/506 Yards with 4/3 TDs
    Lynch had 1257/316 Yards with 12/2 TDs

    Granted Lynch has a potential DUI hanging over his head but his health has not caused him to miss the games that Bush has missed and Bush is a year older. Seems to me that they should be ranked closer together and I would like to hear a detailed rationale from you on your methodology.

    If in a Dynasty format you are looking at who can produce over a 2-3 year future window, it would seem that Lynch has as much if not more potential than Bush.

    Thank you

    • UnderDog says:

      Don’t mean to speak for the sitekeepers but…

      One thing I always have to keep in mind/account for is that all of the rankings here are PPR (my league is not PPR).

    • Slick says:

      Yes, I would like to hear more about Andre Brown.
      His rankings range from 25 – 68 (that has to be some kind of record).
      Would love to hear Jeff B’s take on why he is top 25 and also Ken M who is ranking him like his career is over. And yes, I currently own him.

      Thanks

      • Ken Moody says:

        I try to look at players in a 3 year window. Brown is 27, not very dynamic, on a struggling offense, and just doesn’t do much for me. I would much rather gamble on some younger players with more upside. I know I’m an outlier on him, so feel free to disregard my opinion if you are looking for more of a uniform consensus. But I think one of the things that makes these rankings useful are seeing differing opinions and sometimes being forced to think outside your own box. I know I have to all the time when ranking players, looking at how others guys rank someone forces me to constantly re-evaluate my own perceptions of players. Thanks! KM

      • Jeff Beran says:

        Good question. I’m pretty surprised others are so down on him. He’s certainly not the most talented guy in the world but when it comes to New York Giants running backs, that doesn’t seem to matter much. My ranking is based on several factors which include but are not limited to:
        1. I expect NY to re-sign him on the cheap. They have gaping holes all over their team and will probably use their cap space to address those issues.
        2. From the reports I’ve read, it sounds more likely that David Wilson’s career is over than it does that he’ll play again.
        3. Given the probability of #1 and #2, Brown will be the starting running back in 2014. With improved OL play, he’ll be an effective 3-down back.
        4. He catches passes.
        5. He’s 27 but he has an extremely small amount of mileage on his tires (214 career carries).
        6. Based on the short careers and high volatility of the RB position, I generally rank them with a smaller window (approx. 2 years) than I do for other positions.

        When it comes to rankings, I think I tend to put a little more stock in immediate opportunity (and likewise a little less in “potential”) than other rankers so with that in mind, it makes sense that I’m the highest on him.

        • slick says:

          wow. excellent analysis from both sides. love it and it is very helpful. since i own him and happen to be a giants fan, i am certainly interested in him doing well. but i would certainly deal him if his value peaked (which would likely be early in the season after some success). after hearing from both of you, i actually think the extremes in rankings fit his profile perfectly. i guess that is something we should all keep in mind with this series. sometimes, extremes are not only accurate but telling. one last point – Jeff B. mentioned in #4 reason that he catches passes. this is a huge plus, but am i projecting correctly that this is especially true with new OC mcadoo? i can see alot of no huddle, dumpoffs, screens, where he would shine. thoughts? again, thanks again for the quick and excellent replies.

    • Karl Safchick says:

      Hey Boys. I think you are analyzing your RB backwards. When I rank players I do so with little regard for which team they play for. Certain player whom are in favorable positions, yet lack skill, could find themselves on a different team in the blink of an eye. To your question specifically, I am afraid of many factors when it comes to Lynch. My eyes work the same as yours, in that I think he is an amazing runner. He actually led me to my first title in my home dynasty league. He will always hold a soft spot in my heart for that. Unfortunately, what he has done for dynasty owners doesn’t mean anything for what he will do in the future. Lynch has an impending DUI case which could land him in the office of Mr. Rodger Godell. If he is suspending for the first quarter of the season, I could easily see the young guys showing what they could do. They didn’t draft two talented RB to sit on the bench. I’m also worried about how much tread Lynch still has on his tires. The fact that he has no guaranteed money left on his contract, doesn’t help the situation either. I hope that answers some of your questions. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. You can hit me up on Twitter, or I’ll check in on here tomorrow.

  3. Jacob Feldman says:

    Classic quote from Karl: “Richardson reminds me of the girlfriend you just can’t get over, despite the fact you see her out with other guys.”

  4. TJ says:

    Would you trade Jimmy Graham for AJ Green straight up?

    • Seth says:

      I recently traded Graham and Kendall Wright for AJ Green and Jordan Cameron. Graham and Gronk are in tiers by themselves but we start 3WRs and only 1TE in the league, so I liked AJG over Graham. Non-PPR league btw.

  5. BigD says:

    yes I would. right now. graham seems to have injury problems starting to surface. green is a top 3 wr and jimmy is the top te. the trade is fair no doubt, but I like greens longevity over jimmy. I love brees over ginger Dalton for sure…..but green has the upside without injury history. i’m going that route.

  6. esloan35 says:

    Anybody in their right mind think Andrew Luck is worth RG3 and 1.7 in this years draft. I have been going round and round with a fellow owner.

    • Sean C. says:

      No way! Luck is by far the best player in the deal. RG3 may never regain pre injury form. That’s a huge risk! I would say this years draft is deep, but no way I trade Luck for that. Luck has been the #8 QB for 2 consecutive years and he’s going to improve!!

    • David says:

      Depends on your league. In a 12-team league with one QB starter, I would definitely do this deal. 3 reasons.
      1. QB and QB 12 typically have a small per game point differential
      2. Griffin was insanely accurate in 2012 and terrible in 2013. In college he was amazingly accurate. Which one is the likely outlier?
      3. RGIII will give you more rushing yards

      You get a shot at Amaro or one of the top 5 WR at 1.07 as well.

    • bigefat says:

      I wouldn’t trade the 1.07 for RG3. I just don’t trust him. Seems like too much value is in those repaired legs! While he’s intelligent he doesn’t try to avoid the hit. Too risky!

  7. Rustyram78 says:

    Trouble getting onto the forum.

    In a vacuum anyone agree with moving Larry Fitz, TRich and the 1.12 for the 1.01?

    • esloan35 says:

      I just don’t feel a strong number one this year. I am sure the combine will raise the value some. But, I would hold. You have some assets. Roll with them.

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