11 Responses to “Inside the Numbers: Draft History – WRs”

  1. Eric Dickens says:

    Great article Jeff. I’ve read some of this insight from you before, but it was nice to have you break it down in one place. With that said, if you didn’t have a need at RB or WR going into the rookie draft, who do you take at 1.1? (I acquired the pick by trade early last season)

    I’m assuming your choice would normally be Ingram, but what if AJ Green were to be drafted top 5? Would that change your mind?

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    • DLF_Jeff says:

      The first RB off the board has a historically good chance of being a good player in fantasy, so yes, I’d probably go Ingram. But, if I really needed a WR I do like Green quite a bit. I don’t think he’s Calvin Johnson but he’s got a chance to be great. I have him on par, perhaps even a bit higher than Dez Bryant on talent/ability and a fair amount higher in the area of maturity.

      Though, even if Green were drafted in the top 5, I’d probably still go with Ingram unless I was really in a bind at WR.

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  2. Kris Kapsner says:

    For a WR to be drafted in the top 5 they have to be a supreme talent at the position. WR just isn’t that high on team wish lists. Most teams want a stud QB first and are typically willing to reach for them. After that they want players to protect him, offensive tackle. And, after that, they want the guys to go get the QB on the other team, defensive line. So, the top 5 every year is typically littered with those positions.

    Because of that, to break into the top 5 picks as an offensive player who will be lucky to touch the ball 5-6 times a football game (80-96 catches per year) is a big investment for a team to take. So, that player has to be a REALLY top end talent in order to do so. That’s why we see such a success rate on those WRs who are drafted there. After that, team need tends to dictate where the other WRs may fall. And, a lot of times there isn’t much that separates a WR drafted at #12 and a WR drafted at #30 as far as their talent. Perhaps that #12 pick is a bit more talented. But, the #30 pick is going to a team who just missed the Super Bowl and probably has a much better QB throwing to them as well as a better coaching staff. That explains part of why it’s pretty much a coin flip on which WR to take after any WR who goes in the top 5 is gone. WRs outside the top 5 of NFL drafts are risky. Even guys like DHB or Troy Williamson, both taken at #7, are huge risks and have bust potential, as we’ve seen.

    I’m very interested to see your RB article Jeff, that takes a look at that position in the same manner. Thanks for the information.

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  3. The Vich says:

    Hi Jeff,

    I always look forward to your articles – especially these on WRs. I believe one year you did divluge some of your system? I really value your WR rankings and most years grab a sleeper that you reccommend in round 2 or 3 that really pans out for me! Some years, as in 2002? I believe ALL of the skill players chosen in the first rounds were busts? A few good years and not much else -Maybe Shockey was the best…. The stats on the first WR off the board might look more attractive if Al Davis wasn’t the only person on the planet who thougth DHB was the number one WR, and the argument could me made the same way about Charles Rogers over Andre Johnson – wasn’t that Matt Millen’s doing? I know you can’t do your figures on who most people thought should have been drafted, but that would certaintly change things on the first WR taken to 3 stud, 1 starter, 2 bench, 4 bust. While Crabtree will probably move to a starter this year with better QB play. Love the articles – Keep that coming. It’s the best Dynasty info on the web!

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    • DLF_Jeff says:

      Thanks Vich. The first WR off the board has been a sketchy, at best, strategy for WRs but recently it has gotten even moreso. As you pointed out, receivers like DHB (2009), Avery (2009 2nd. Rd.), Santonio Holmes (2006) and Braylon Edwards (2005) have made it a risky proposition. Some of those players are still producers but you probably aren’t happy if you drafted them to be an every week starter for your team.

      Really, when you look at draft history with respect to WRs taken in the first round, it’s a seas of under-performance and disappointment.

      I considered doing a recap of the first 3 rounds of WRs in each draft but the numbers get really ugly and most don’t care. At least not enough for me to really pull together all the figures. I usually try to keep my material as impactful as possible.

      And just as a refresher – Detroit took a WR first in 2003, 2004 and 2005 with respective picks #2 (Charles Rogers), #7 (Roy Williams) and the one that ultimately starter Millen on his path to termination, #19 (Mike Williams). They then took a year off and returned to their receiver-drafting ways with #2 in 2007 (Calvin Johnson) – Finally getting it right.

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  4. Sensei John Kreese says:

    this is scary, considering the depth of the wr position in this years draft…i suspect that 7 of the top 12 picks will be recievers…i have 1.1, 1.6, 1.8, and 1.9 and its a ppr league

    i still have no idea who i will take, but i suspect that i will go for the best player available at all picks, and its looking more and more likely that those players are going to be wrs…no depth at rb, mediocre qbs prospects and no legit idps, quite a weak class

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    • DLF_Jeff says:

      I was a lot higher on the WRs before all the early declarations were in, losing a couple of big names really hurt. But it’s still a pretty good crop if you need a WR. If you need a QB or RB, you may be in trouble this year.

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      • Sensei John Kreese says:

        i agree 100%…im definitely going ingram 1, and im hoping titus young can slip to 6, ive just got a feeling about that guy..nothing scientific

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  5. Misfit74 says:

    Good stuff!

    One angle I’ve been thinking about is that even though your chances may be less in drafting WRs, the potential payoff can be as high as double the return on investment of the ‘safer’ RB choice due to the shelf-life of the respective positions.

    Take a 35% chance at a WR that helps your team for the next 10 years or a higher chance at the RB who typically helps you for closer to 5 years?

    Makes for some interesting strategies among Dynasty owners…

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  6. Misfit74 says:

    Also, it’s too bad true Dynasty rookie-draft ADPs are inaccurate or unavailable short of building your own database and soliciting the info from ‘qualifying’, like leagues. All rookie drafts from all Dynasty 12-team PPR leagues the past 10 years would be an awesome set of data to explore!

    /waves magic wand

    ;)

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  7. jaguar says:

    Highly absorbing blog post. I think your blog post was very fascinating. Thank you again – I will return.

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