14 Responses to “2011 NFL Combine Wrap-up”

  1. sportsbook says:

    Cam Newton had a horrible combine and supposedly also came off very bad in team interviews. He has “bust” written all over him.

    Leonard Hankerson has suspect hands and showed that at the combine. Edmund Gates is not NFL ready and only has straight-line speed so I don’t see how you can move him ahead of Titus Young who can play the game much better.

    You mentioned Leshoure running a 4.95 but you have his correct 40 time next to his name.

    VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
    • DLF_Jeff says:

      Thanks for the note on Leshoure, I’ll fix that. Not a big fan of Titus Young and living in the NW, have seen a fair amount of him. Have to do more research on Gates.

      Hankerson’s hands aren’t elite by any stretch but he was on par with expectations in that regard.

      Newton’s combine was not great, that’s for sure … far from. But he’s a very dynamic player and no doubt he was pressing. His team interviews are of great concerns and I fear for him if he isn’t successful quickly. But make not mistake, the misinformation train is at full speed for all top end prospects. Newton is far more dynamic than any of the other passers and a team will take a chance early on him.

      The Ponder news about him rising is to likely to lure many of the teams at the top of the first round to consider the possibility of waiting until the second to get their QB .. thus allowing Newton to fall. That said, I think Ponder has a high ceiling.

      Thanks for the comments

      VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  2. hosler427 says:

    How is Kyle Rudolph not ranked at TE?

    I don’t think Hankerson has issues with his hands. He has issues with concentration which many scouts have brought up. That was evident in the gauntlet drill. After he dropped that first pass, he lost focus and was out of it.

    I don’t agree with your rankings but appreciate the posting. I think in general, people are putting too much stock on what they saw these guys do in their underwear.

    VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
    • DLF_Jeff says:

      Thanks for the note … I just realized that I left off my 5th TE, which happens to be Rudolph. Not excited about the class at all and Rudolph was my #4. Feel free to post the difference that you have as well … I take no offense.

      I also completely agree that people put too much emphasis on what players do at the combine, but there are many things that can be taken from it too.

      VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
      • hosler427 says:

        There is a lot of differences. Rudolph reminds me a lot of Gronkowski and is the #1 TE IMO.

        I have been high on Greg Little for a long time. He is a natural athlete. He plays big when the situation calls for it and plays like a running back when it is needed. Despite being raw I have him ranked as the #4 WR. You bring up his small hands as a concern…9 1/8 isn’t freaksih small. Those same concerns as well as a limited skill set (in my opinion) should apply to Torrey Smith and his Brandon LaFell-ish 8 5/8 inch hands lol :-)

        I am also a big believer in Jacquizz Rodgers as a top 5 RB. His height doesn’t effect his play and when you see a guy that short built like that and as quick and strong as he is…he will be a factor in the NFL.

        Another couple omissions are Randall Cobb and Ronald Johnson. Both are extremely underrated.

        Long story short, we have very different rankings. There is nothing wrong with that though!

        VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
        • DLF_Jeff says:

          Remember though that we are talking about fantasy impact over NFL impact here. I believe someone like Quizz could carve out a space in the NFL, but I just don’t see him making a fantasy impact. The odds are very much stacked against him in the NFL and he doesn’t have the bulk to make up for it. Being up here in the NW, I’ve a lot of Quizz. I love him in the college game but that’s about it.

          If you recall further back, Ken Simonton, who also played for the Beavers was a phenomenal but small back. I thought he had a chance at 5’7″ and 200 lbs. But he didn’t even get anything more than a sniff in the NFL and he was a better NFL style back in my opinion.

          Greg Hill is probably going to rise on my board after I do more research and I think Smith is going to fall a bit. Hand size alone doesn’t affect my rankings much unless there’s been a display of drops and small hands become more of an issue as the player’s size increases and agility decreases. Small hands on larger receivers that can’t square up as effectively or turn become a problem. More agile receivers with good hips and agility can turn on balls easier and square up to make the catch. Hill’s hands combined with his bulk and size are a concern for me.

          I have Randall Cobb as a late add but I have very little info on him and I don’t like to slot WRs that I don’t have some familiarity with.

          Thanks for the comments!

          VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  3. Kris Kapsner says:

    I’m glad I’m not the only person excited to see Vereen at the next level.

    The interesting thing I’m seeing in this class is the difficulty of nailing down who the #3 WR or #2 RB is. Everyone has their personal favorites. I personally like Leshoure and Williams as the #2 and #3 RB’s right now and I like Baldwin as my #3 WR. All of those 6 could be stars in the NFL.

    My dark horse with super star potential is Greg Little. I think the guy has tremendous upside in the NFL. And, I plan on drafting him with my #10 or #11 pick that I have. Nicks and Tate both rolled out of that same school in recent years. Little looks like he could almost follow in Nicks’ footsteps. Yes, I know those are big words.

    VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
    • hosler427 says:

      Vereen and Little will both be very good in the NFL. Right now I have Hankerson as my #3 WR (with Little at #4) at this time and Vereen and LeShoure as my #2 and 3 RBs. I am finding it easier to put these guys in tiers right now and let the situations shake out the rankings.

      VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
  4. Mr. Rourke says:

    Hankerson looked horrible in the gaunlet. Hankerson got hit by every pass in the gaunlet that was thrown while running and caught one (at least I’m pretty sure he did catch one… he might have caught none). He has small hands that looked like they were made of stone. The passes he didn’t catch were good since they all hit him when he failed to catch them.

    Gates has great straightline speed, but he wasn’t running anywhere near that fast in the drills. I also noted that Gates might have a little DeSean in him, but then I saw the pass catching drills where he wasn’t running anywhere near that fast. Even the announcers on the NFL network broadcast questioned where his speed went when it came to the drills.

    VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
    Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
    • hosler427 says:

      Hankerson has the largest hands of any WR at the combine. Like I said above the big hit on him was concentration which fits what happened in the gauntlet. Watch him on the field and he makes plays…

      I agree that Gates shouldn’t be sniffing any top 10 list though

      VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
    • DLF_Jeff says:

      I disagree about Hankerson. And he doesn’t have small hands. That said, not everyone at the combine is going to do well. Hankerson was “okay” to a bit disappointing. But game day tape is always more important to me and he plays much better than he performed .. .a bit like Newton.

      I agree about Gates. He’s a wild card to me and history shows that most of these WRs are going to be busts. I think that ratio will be higher with this draft class in the WR position.

      VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
      Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
      • Mr. Rourke says:

        I’ll take your word on Hankerson’s hand size because I honestly didn’t bother to check it. He did catch the deep pass over the outside shoulder well. I’m not saying that the kid is trash, but he’s definitly not ahead of Baldwin on my board. Hankerson looked like the stereo-typical unathletic kid losing a game of dodgeball as he got pummeled by footballs, when he was supposed to be catching the ball. The gauntlet is designed to show flaws in a players game and no one showed more flaws then Hankerson.

        Newton was erratic and definitly not my #1 QB. I don’t care how fast he runs, how high he jumps, how far he can jump from a standing position. Accuratly throwing the ball is much more important to me then being an athlete. Mallet looked better then Newton when it came to being a QB and doing QB things to me. Both have red flags, so I’ll default to the red flags of the guy who throws the ball better.

        I also kept saying who’s that kid and rewinding just to see Ponder the one who threw the pass, so I totally agree with you on that. Ponder did very well.

        VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
        Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
        • DLF_Jeff says:

          I think Baldwin will end up my #3 when it’s all said and done.

          Accuracy is one of the reasons Newton will be my #1 QB. His on-field accuracy this past year was a staggering 66%+. Accuracy is my top stat for rankings and why Locker can’t be much higher than he is. In most all cases, accuracy is a good determinant of better success. I would like to see Newton with more years of play with increasing accuracy but that 66%+ completion % is in a down field passing offense as well, not a dink and dunk offense. Combine wise, some players just tend to press and there is no chemistry with receivers. His out passes were high though.

          Ponder is going to be interesting, just have to see where he goes. I’m still not sold but he’s been on my list from the beginning. I’m doing more research on Gabbert too.

          VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)
        • Kris Kapsner says:

          “Hankerson looked like the stereo-typical unathletic kid losing a game of dodgeball as he got pummeled by footballs, when he was supposed to be catching the ball.”

          That is one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time.

          VA:F [1.9.17_1161]
          Rating: 0 (from 0 votes)

Leave a Comment